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Zelda 12-18-2016 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Lily09 (Post 592985)
like i think its common sense... if ur not part of the maginalized group who gets called the slur.... u dont get to use/reclaim said slur... i saw the post and it set me off in a couple of different ways but yeah

point to consider: not everyone is aware that certain slurs are slurs.
kind of like how in Zootopia (lol disney analogy) Clawhauser called Judy 'cute' and Judy was like 'that's not actually ok'.
Clawhauser had no idea that was offensive, and I think that this happens a lot with people.
hopefully it will get better as awareness grows ^-^

Zelda 12-18-2016 10:11 PM

on another note, i'm slightly depersonalized right now and not quite sure why.

i need me some energy drink..

Lily09 12-18-2016 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Zelda (Post 593015)
point to consider: not everyone is aware that certain slurs are slurs.
kind of like how in Zootopia (lol disney analogy) Clawhauser called Judy 'cute' and Judy was like 'that's not actually ok'.
Clawhauser had no idea that was offensive, and I think that this happens a lot with people.
hopefully it will get better as awareness grows ^-^

thats true!!

AlgebraAddict 12-18-2016 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Owen-L (Post 592991)
im just depressed af lol

hey buddy i don't know exactly what's going on with you but just email me if you can and if you can't, just know that you're actually super cool?? and you don't deserve to feel like this like at all. you deserve to be loved and protected from this shithole world. fuck anyone who makes you think otherwise.

meerkat 12-19-2016 01:31 AM

i know this isn't good for me so why do i come back

Lily09 12-19-2016 07:17 AM

a friend and i are checking out an LGBT friendly Episcopal church on tuesday.

she's an ex-JW and i'm a kinda-sorta-Buddhist-but-not-really-agnostic-maybe-confused?

so she has some experience in this church related kinda stuff?? i think idk what to call it

i have none aside from buddhist summer camps and a few buddhist services

so i have no idea whats gonna happen

we arent attending for service we just want to scope the place out

but im still kind of scared and hopeful at the same time tbh

pluzzle 12-19-2016 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Lily09 (Post 592985)
like i think its common sense... if ur not part of the maginalized group who gets called the slur.... u dont get to use/reclaim said slur... i saw the post and it set me off in a couple of different ways but yeah

dfjdkjfd i know
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Originally Posted by Zelda (Post 593015)
point to consider: not everyone is aware that certain slurs are slurs.
kind of like how in Zootopia (lol disney analogy) Clawhauser called Judy 'cute' and Judy was like 'that's not actually ok'.
Clawhauser had no idea that was offensive, and I think that this happens a lot with people.
hopefully it will get better as awareness grows ^-^

i love zootopia......
but true, and i agree

Lily09 12-19-2016 07:32 AM

also im kinda scared about how people will percieve me??

both my parents kinda laugh at abrahamic religions because they say that being buddhist is the best religion because theres not actually a god. i just dont really feel connected to buddhism tho and i have negative ties with buddhism due to abuse. i haven't told them im scoping out a church.

i did tell my brother. my brother kinda was like "what? why would you go to church?" and i guess it's understandable. i'm gay and transgender and have identified as either atheist or buddhist for most of my life and pagan for like a year. its kind of out of character for me to want to go to church. but i believe there's something more than this.

i'm also scared of being judged by my friends. theyre all gay and/or trans and most of them aren't religious. i'm scared theyre gonna give me the eye roll. i know some of them have had really bad experiences with religion , but i can still be gay and believe in god right?
(i guess it also doesn't help that i always say 'where's the devil cause i wanna fuck him' or bring up my priest kink but lol thats different)

Jesse 12-19-2016 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Lily09 (Post 593025)
also im kinda scared about how people will percieve me??

both my parents kinda laugh at abrahamic religions because they say that being buddhist is the best religion because theres not actually a god. i just dont really feel connected to buddhism tho and i have negative ties with buddhism due to abuse. i haven't told them im scoping out a church.

i did tell my brother. my brother kinda was like "what? why would you go to church?" and i guess it's understandable. i'm gay and transgender and have identified as either atheist or buddhist for most of my life and pagan for like a year. its kind of out of character for me to want to go to church. but i believe there's something more than this.

i'm also scared of being judged by my friends. theyre all gay and/or trans and most of them aren't religious. i'm scared theyre gonna give me the eye roll. i know some of them have had really bad experiences with religion , but i can still be gay and believe in god right?
(i guess it also doesn't help that i always say 'where's the devil cause i wanna fuck him' or bring up my priest kink but lol thats different)

If I was religious, I would probably be a Unitarian Universalist because they're very open to the LGBT community and don't really have any hard beliefs besides "be nice". They welcome people from all religions and the sermons I've been too don't preach any kind of ideology...they simply take fables and life stories from lots of religions and mix them together to create something personal.
they're also extremely liberal and open to social justice.
maybe you'd like to give that a try?

Swallowtail 12-19-2016 08:54 AM

!!!!! UU here to say that the church is super LGBT friendly, pro black lives matter, ecetera. Also you can be another religion and UU. There are Muslim UUs, Christian UUs, Atheist UUs, the services aren't ever really religious but a lot of people go to the UU church then go somewhere else if they feel they need to. It's a lot of storytelling and teaching life lessons more than teaching religion. Like the person telling the story might tell one from the New Testament about Jesus and his diciphels, but emphasize the moral over the religious part. Everyone's really laid back for the most part, and no one will ever get angry at you if you want to leave the church (one year for Sunday school they had us go visit a ton of other churches/mosques/temples so we could see if we would be happier somewhere else) don't go for a year, or anything like that. There are also usually a lot of things that go on outside of Sunday morning, showing local films or dances or Christmas celebrations or celebrating Passover. So yeah if you're kind of unsure about your religion you could always try going to a UU church for a bit, then maybe if you don't feel like that works for you try something else

Jesse 12-19-2016 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Swallowtail (Post 593028)
!!!!! UU here to say that the church is super LGBT friendly, pro black lives matter, ecetera. Also you can be another religion and UU. There are Muslim UUs, Christian UUs, Atheist UUs, the services aren't ever really religious but a lot of people go to the UU church then go somewhere else if they feel they need to. It's a lot of storytelling and teaching life lessons more than teaching religion. Like the person telling the story might tell one from the New Testament about Jesus and his diciphels, but emphasize the moral over the religious part. Everyone's really laid back for the most part, and no one will ever get angry at you if you want to leave the church (one year for Sunday school they had us go visit a ton of other churches/mosques/temples so we could see if we would be happier somewhere else) don't go for a year, or anything like that. There are also usually a lot of things that go on outside of Sunday morning, showing local films or dances or Christmas celebrations or celebrating Passover. So yeah if you're kind of unsure about your religion you could always try going to a UU church for a bit, then maybe if you don't feel like that works for you try something else

this!!!!!!!

Owen-L 12-19-2016 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by AlgebraAddict (Post 593019)
hey buddy i don't know exactly what's going on with you but just email me if you can and if you can't, just know that you're actually super cool?? and you don't deserve to feel like this like at all. you deserve to be loved and protected from this shithole world. fuck anyone who makes you think otherwise.

thanks sddfsgjgj

july3girl 12-19-2016 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Lily09 (Post 593025)
also im kinda scared about how people will percieve me??

both my parents kinda laugh at abrahamic religions because they say that being buddhist is the best religion because theres not actually a god. i just dont really feel connected to buddhism tho and i have negative ties with buddhism due to abuse. i haven't told them im scoping out a church.

i did tell my brother. my brother kinda was like "what? why would you go to church?" and i guess it's understandable. i'm gay and transgender and have identified as either atheist or buddhist for most of my life and pagan for like a year. its kind of out of character for me to want to go to church. but i believe there's something more than this.

i'm also scared of being judged by my friends. theyre all gay and/or trans and most of them aren't religious. i'm scared theyre gonna give me the eye roll. i know some of them have had really bad experiences with religion , but i can still be gay and believe in god right?
(i guess it also doesn't help that i always say 'where's the devil cause i wanna fuck him' or bring up my priest kink but lol thats different)

i'm so glad you're checking it out for multiple reasons. like there are my OWN selfish reasons that i want you and just lgbtq people in general to see that we (christians) aren't all horrible xenophobic bigots. honestly i feel like, just as there are different sects of christianity, judaism, buddhism, etc., each church/temple/community is different and have slightly different values and beliefs (like my catholic church is crazy liberal but then my cousin's, in the same city, is very conservative and everyone likes trump and ugh ANYWAY)

well enough about me i'm also glad just because, yeah, if you believe in God or a god that's great. god loves everyone so if you believe that and love him back, more power to you.

it's good that you're willing to try it out. it's good that your thinking about it. everyone has religious enlightenment era sometime in their life where they just want to learn and experiment and your friends will probably have one eventually too. idk just speaking from what i know and perceive and whatever

Lily09 12-19-2016 09:34 PM

thank you guys!!

i might try out the UU thing but my friend and i have decided to check out the Episcopal church tomorrow

question:my friend wants us to do a dark makeup look because we're going to the mall beforehand and the Lgbt center after, but is that appropriate? i know with buddhist monasteries ive always been told to do very light/natural makeup or none at all?

are there similar dress code/rules for looks at churches ???

Swallowtail 12-19-2016 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Lily09 (Post 593033)
thank you guys!!

i might try out the UU thing but my friend and i have decided to check out the Episcopal church tomorrow

question:my friend wants us to do a dark makeup look because we're going to the mall beforehand and the Lgbt center after, but is that appropriate? i know with buddhist monasteries ive always been told to do very light/natural makeup or none at all?

are there similar dress code/rules for looks at churches ???

I mean that generally depends on the church tbh, but to be safe at first you might want to do a more natural makeup? Just because I'm not sure what that church is like and you aren't sure either. As long as you dress fairly nicely- try maybe some nice jeans and a nice sweater as the most casual you could get, but again it really depends on the church

SilverMoon 12-21-2016 11:23 PM

why haven't i done anything why can't i do anything i am talentless and stale and cynical and bitter and pathetic why can't i do anything i am worthless thank you for making me realize that i am truly worthless and have never done anything well yuratchka i can barely leave my house ever stupid thoughtless natural talent prodigy children i want to die

SilverMoon 12-21-2016 11:27 PM

that was really good why don't i feel happy i just feel like shit instead why can't the things that make me happy make me happy

meerkat 12-21-2016 11:48 PM

my fucked up positivity is whispering "kill yourself" in the mirror and feeling better instantly.

SilverMoon 12-22-2016 12:09 AM

why am i so pathetic and useless

Lena 12-22-2016 12:31 AM

I really hate when this happens

venika 12-22-2016 12:12 PM

hey guys..so uhh i've said before on kp that i'm an atheist, but recently i've been thinking a lot more about religion so uh.. bear with me

so like... i don't know if there's a god? like. i'm a very scientific, skeptical kind of person so i'm not a very spiritual person at all. and like, i definitely believe in evolution and stuff like that. but i also kind of feel like, if i could get my head around believing in something, i could?

like i believe in a lot of the moral stuff religion talks about? like the stuff about being a good person and all that. and i think, if i were to be even slightly religious, it would be like? something for myself, like a personal thing you know idk if this makes sense but

also, i'm gay and i don't want to be told that who i am is wrong or disgusting or morally awful or anything. obviously not all religious people think that and not all religions are homophobic but... yeah there's that

idk like there's the doubtful part of me that's like, there's nothing out there?? and there's a small part of me that's like, i'd want to believe in something, even if it's just for myself. so ummmm does anyone have any like.. advice? and if u don't mind answering this.... why do you believe in whatever you believe in?

Gracithe1andonly 12-22-2016 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by venika (Post 593068)
hey guys..so uhh i've said before on kp that i'm an atheist, but recently i've been thinking a lot more about religion so uh.. bear with me

so like... i don't know if there's a god? like. i'm a very scientific, skeptical kind of person so i'm not a very spiritual person at all. and like, i definitely believe in evolution and stuff like that. but i also kind of feel like, if i could get my head around believing in something, i could?

like i believe in a lot of the moral stuff religion talks about? like the stuff about being a good person and all that. and i think, if i were to be even slightly religious, it would be like? something for myself, like a personal thing you know idk if this makes sense but

also, i'm gay and i don't want to be told that who i am is wrong or disgusting or morally awful or anything. obviously not all religious people think that and not all religions are homophobic but... yeah there's that

idk like there's the doubtful part of me that's like, there's nothing out there?? and there's a small part of me that's like, i'd want to believe in something, even if it's just for myself. so ummmm does anyone have any like.. advice? and if u don't mind answering this.... why do you believe in whatever you believe in?

hello buddy

my first urging to you is to find the truth. even if you can't prove it entirely to yourself or to anyone else, I don't want to live a lie out of ignorance.

about science disproving God- the theory of evolution, while I think it's quite possible, has several gaping holes in it that are worth attention.

I have believed in a God for as long as I can remember. at first it was just 'cause my parents did and I couldn't think why they were wrong. I believe for lots of reasons, some more petty than others, but I need God.

I've noticed so much confusion on this site. It is human to be confused, but so many of us are just content to stay there and not to try to win our way out of it. I'm confused a lot, but because I believe in these things, I'm so much less confused than most other people I meet.

There are people I know and admire who believe in God- happy people, strong people, people who I trust to teach me. I know a man who believes in God who is the principal of my school, and is quite possibly the wisest men I know. Atheists can also be wonderful people, but from what I've observed- which admittedly isn't a lot- if we let God help us, we can more easily become the best people we can be.


Here is a wonderful little proof of the existence of God.

Can we agree that nothing greater than God can be thought of?

Can we also agree that what exists is greater than what does not exist?

God must needs exist, therefore, because if he did not, all that existed would be greater than him.


I hope I was helpful.

Swallowtail 12-22-2016 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by venika (Post 593068)
hey guys..so uhh i've said before on kp that i'm an atheist, but recently i've been thinking a lot more about religion so uh.. bear with me

so like... i don't know if there's a god? like. i'm a very scientific, skeptical kind of person so i'm not a very spiritual person at all. and like, i definitely believe in evolution and stuff like that. but i also kind of feel like, if i could get my head around believing in something, i could?

like i believe in a lot of the moral stuff religion talks about? like the stuff about being a good person and all that. and i think, if i were to be even slightly religious, it would be like? something for myself, like a personal thing you know idk if this makes sense but

also, i'm gay and i don't want to be told that who i am is wrong or disgusting or morally awful or anything. obviously not all religious people think that and not all religions are homophobic but... yeah there's that

idk like there's the doubtful part of me that's like, there's nothing out there?? and there's a small part of me that's like, i'd want to believe in something, even if it's just for myself. so ummmm does anyone have any like.. advice? and if u don't mind answering this.... why do you believe in whatever you believe in?

Hey I feel a lot like this sometimes but less so recently. I don't really believe in a god or gods, but I believe it might be possible there is someone/something out there and I'm not sure really. I'm really glad I go to a super open and accepting church, even though I haven't been (school) for almost a year. If you want to go to church/temple/ anywhere else I would suggest just going to some places and making it clear you're unsure about your religion and questioning whether there is a god or not. The people there will probably be able to talk better than I can (especially since I'm unsure myself) and also ask questions about their stance on lgbtq issues! They will almost certainly not be angry at you. They might try and tell you it's wrong but they know you're questioning and if they are against it don't come back. But also with the whole moral thing-- that's basically just Unitarian Universalism. Not trying to force religion into you or anyone, but I really love my church and it's barely religious at all. You can be UU and super religious though, and everyone there will try and make sure you're happy with your religion and no one will be angry if you leave the church at all. It's super low key and for a lot of people is a sort of stepping stone religion into being more religious, but most people just stay UU. Good luck figuring things out

Frostblaze 12-22-2016 11:28 PM

me: yeah 2017's gonna be my year! self-improvement! no braces! summer job! new concert opportunities! new music! yeah! new books! one year closer to lots of things! yeah!

best/only friend: im moving in june

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FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK

Owen-L 12-23-2016 10:55 PM

*is constantly on the verge of a mental breakdown*

Graystorm 12-23-2016 11:05 PM

Why does every fucking thing have to be about my mother. When my very Catholic grandfather said Grace at the Christmas dinner we had tonight (it's straight out of the bible too) he decided to add something about my mother and how he hoped she was in heaven and whatever the bell else. Then my aunt got me a picture of our family with my mom in it. My grandmother got me a blanket that my great grandmother made for my mom. I just don't fucking understand it. My grandfather also brings "Susan" up every other sentence. Gods, I know they're trying their best, and I know they miss her too. Their own daughter committed suicide, for heaven's sake.

I'm just so fed up with it

Gods I wanted to cut so much

We have ONE shot at existing. We have ONE chance to make it count.

I'm going to have to do that without my mom.

I know it might sound stupid, but even after 3/4 or a year, it still hasn't really sunk in yet. That my mother had died. It comes in flashes, and when it does it's unbearable. But it goes away and I pretend she's on vacation or something. Anything. Because she can't really be gone.

Graystorm 12-24-2016 01:36 AM

Gods

My room has never felt more like a prisoner's cell then it does right now at 1:36 in the morning

Confuzzled 12-24-2016 01:20 PM

heeyyy guys so i stumbled upon this website and i thought it might be helpful for anyone really struggling, especially suicidal thoughts. if calling/talking to someone face to face is too hard, this could really help! this website has an online chat with trained volunteers who can help. :)

https://www.imalive.org/

SilverMoon 12-24-2016 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Confuzzled (Post 593079)
heeyyy guys so i stumbled upon this website and i thought it might be helpful for anyone really struggling, especially suicidal thoughts. if calling/talking to someone face to face is too hard, this could really help! this website has an online chat with trained volunteers who can help. :)

https://www.imalive.org/

1: thanks for this
2: omg hi confuzzled i haven't seen u around in a while

meerkat 12-24-2016 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Confuzzled (Post 593079)
heeyyy guys so i stumbled upon this website and i thought it might be helpful for anyone really struggling, especially suicidal thoughts. if calling/talking to someone face to face is too hard, this could really help! this website has an online chat with trained volunteers who can help. :)

https://www.imalive.org/

what kind of advice do they give? is it just bullshit like "ohhh youre sO STRONG for dealing with this!!!!" bc if so then it'll be 0 help

AlgebraAddict 12-24-2016 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by meerkat (Post 593081)
what kind of advice do they give? is it just bullshit like "ohhh youre sO STRONG for dealing with this!!!!" bc if so then it'll be 0 help

I've called a suicide hotline before so idk if it's anything like that, but it's nothing too cheesy. they just ask for the facts and give some suggestions of what you can do in the meantime to distract yourself or make things better just for the short term, and then ask what you can do in the long term (e.g. meds, therapy, etc.). they've been trained and they know what's up so they're not going to say anything too demeaning or corny.

meerkat 12-25-2016 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by AlgebraAddict (Post 593082)
I've called a suicide hotline before so idk if it's anything like that, but it's nothing too cheesy. they just ask for the facts and give some suggestions of what you can do in the meantime to distract yourself or make things better just for the short term, and then ask what you can do in the long term (e.g. meds, therapy, etc.). they've been trained and they know what's up so they're not going to say anything too demeaning or corny.

every time ive tried a hotline it's just fuckign bullshit cheesy nonsense and they just want to show me sympathy
like bitch no i do'nt need your fucking sympathy you're making me want to kill myself twice as much
i really want to do it now but whatever

pluzzle 12-25-2016 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by meerkat (Post 593081)
what kind of advice do they give? is it just bullshit like "ohhh youre sO STRONG for dealing with this!!!!" bc if so then it'll be 0 help

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlgebraAddict (Post 593082)
I've called a suicide hotline before so idk if it's anything like that, but it's nothing too cheesy. they just ask for the facts and give some suggestions of what you can do in the meantime to distract yourself or make things better just for the short term, and then ask what you can do in the long term (e.g. meds, therapy, etc.). they've been trained and they know what's up so they're not going to say anything too demeaning or corny.

+1 for that,in my experience they dont really say "ohh youre so strong" they just listen to you if you want to talk, sometimes you get responders that will stay with you on the phone for as much time as you can even if you dont talk much. They do talk about things oyu can do to help yourself and distract yourself. The only bad experience I had was when a responder told me to flush my pills down the toilet even though they were prescribed mood stabilisers haha

Confuzzled 12-26-2016 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverMoon (Post 593080)
1: thanks for this
2: omg hi confuzzled i haven't seen u around in a while

1. you are so so welcome
2. hiiiiiii ik, i honestly don't really consider myself a "member" anymore because i kind of float on and off but it's nice to kinda catch up and see what's happening :))) how have you been?

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Originally Posted by meerkat (Post 593081)
what kind of advice do they give? is it just bullshit like "ohhh youre sO STRONG for dealing with this!!!!" bc if so then it'll be 0 help

I honestly have no idea, I haven't tried it. I just found it and I figured it wouldn't hurt to share soo yeahh. :) Sorry that's not very helpful :/

SilverMoon 12-26-2016 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Confuzzled (Post 593106)
1. you are so so welcome
2. hiiiiiii ik, i honestly don't really consider myself a "member" anymore because i kind of float on and off but it's nice to kinda catch up and see what's happening :))) how have you been?

lol bad
i wouldn't say things are going well but at least they're going

meerkat 12-26-2016 09:55 PM

it's when not if

SilverMoon 12-26-2016 09:57 PM

tfw u see a bottle of pills on the counter and you're just like "huh. those aren't mine. maybe i should down all of them and see what happens"

like
not a plan or anything
nor any particular true possibility
just
tfw that's the very first thing u think to urself. casually.

Confuzzled 12-26-2016 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverMoon (Post 593107)
lol bad
i wouldn't say things are going well but at least they're going

hey, that is good at least! :) is there anything i can do to help make things a bit better?

Swallowtail 12-27-2016 09:06 PM

if people would stop commenting on my height and calling me a fucking freak for it to my faves that would be good thanks. same goes to comments like "you could be a model if you were pretty!" and "if you had bigger boobs you could be a model" haha fuck off and no mom those are not compliments and you threatening to send me to get help because I hate my height isn't helping either thanks and kindly fuck off. also stop screaming at me in front of my friends as my brother laughs thanks I hate myself anyway I don't need your help

AlgebraAddict 12-27-2016 11:03 PM

its late at night. myg rammar is gonna be like !! bad so sry if u cant read lmao
 
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Originally Posted by Swallowtail (Post 593128)
if people would stop commenting on my height and calling me a fucking freak for it to my faves that would be good thanks. same goes to comments like "you could be a model if you were pretty!" and "if you had bigger boobs you could be a model" haha fuck off and no mom those are not compliments and you threatening to send me to get help because I hate my height isn't helping either thanks and kindly fuck off. also stop screaming at me in front of my friends as my brother laughs thanks I hate myself anyway I don't need your help

oh my fuking god ok first of all you're !!!!!!!! like!!!!!! pretty very much pretty like already a model amirite~ i think you're very pretty personally so it makes me Angry AF to hear this shitt. i know insecurity and i know it sucks and me saying that tall is gorgeous isn't gonna change how you feel. no one deserves to feel not pretty though ok and you especially not. you are not a freak and anyone who says so is
a) jelly bean-ass bich
b) fuckboy who dont deserve u
feel free to come down on them from the sky and woop their asses ok

i realize this is probably incomprehensible. but just to let you know you are
a) very pretty
b) dont deserve a sad or an insecure feelings
c) anyone who says otherwise can stfu???

i know one day you'll look back on yourself and be like wow was i a boss ass bitch or what, so just hang in there until then ok. ily buddy.


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