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wildwolf 11-04-2012 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by shadowtide (Post 358736)
So my sister told me that One Direction replaced Fun as her favorite band because she found out Nate Ruess doesn't believe in God so she doesn't like Fun anymore. And yeah, I don't care, I don't like either band, but I said it didn't make sense to dislike music just because of the musician's religious viewpoint. Then you came in the room and asked what we were talking about. You said she was right, and that what a musician believes is reflected in their music. I said if she liked the music before, the music didn't change just because she found out something about the singer. Then you asked me if I found out a singer beat his children, do I think it would be reflected in his music, and would I still like him. …what the eff? You're comparing disbelief in a deity to child abuse? That's not the same, at all. That's an insulting, illogical, bigoted comparison. I wish I could tell you that.
You know what else I wish I could tell you? I wish I could tell you that I'm an atheist. The funny thing is, I've been doubting for over a year, but I didn't stop believing completely until around two months ago. I tried to believe. I prayed. I cried, and I begged God to help me believe in Him. I wanted to believe so badly. I felt like I was a horrible person for doubting God. If a year ago I could've trusted you to listen to me instead of freaking out and judging the state of my soul, right now I would probably believe in everything Christianity teaches. If I didn't hear you sneering about how nombelievers don't believe in God only because they don't want to be responsible for their actions, or making remarks like 'non-religious doesn't mean they don't believe in anything, it means they'll believe in anything', or saying that you never know what someone who doesn't believe in God will do because they have no basis for morality, or making mean remarks about people who believe differently from you, or saying that God's existence and goodness is immediately evident to anyone who looks at the universe, I might have told you.
I hate it when we fight about something and you scream at me that Satan is leading me straight on the path to Hell. Do you have any idea at all how much it hurts when you tell me that? I hate it when you ask me if I love Jesus, because I hate lying to you. I hate receiving the Eucharist, because I don't believe that it is the body of Christ, and pretending that I believe a piece of bread is Jesus' body and saying amen to that and eating it feels like the most terrible lie ever.
Right now, I hate you mom. I hate you. I hate you almost as much as I hate myself.

There's nothing wrong with Atheism.
Personally, I think religion screws up a lot of stuff.

You will have to admit your beliefs some day. That day may not be today, but you will tell them one day.
Hell doesn't exist. Don't worry about THAT.

Confuzzled 11-04-2012 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by shadowtide (Post 358736)
So my sister told me that One Direction replaced Fun as her favorite band because she found out Nate Ruess doesn't believe in God so she doesn't like Fun anymore. And yeah, I don't care, I don't like either band, but I said it didn't make sense to dislike music just because of the musician's religious viewpoint. Then you came in the room and asked what we were talking about. You said she was right, and that what a musician believes is reflected in their music. I said if she liked the music before, the music didn't change just because she found out something about the singer. Then you asked me if I found out a singer beat his children, do I think it would be reflected in his music, and would I still like him. …what the eff? You're comparing disbelief in a deity to child abuse? That's not the same, at all. That's an insulting, illogical, bigoted comparison. I wish I could tell you that.
You know what else I wish I could tell you? I wish I could tell you that I'm an atheist. The funny thing is, I've been doubting for over a year, but I didn't stop believing completely until around two months ago. I tried to believe. I prayed. I cried, and I begged God to help me believe in Him. I wanted to believe so badly. I felt like I was a horrible person for doubting God. If a year ago I could've trusted you to listen to me instead of freaking out and judging the state of my soul, right now I would probably believe in everything Christianity teaches. If I didn't hear you sneering about how nombelievers don't believe in God only because they don't want to be responsible for their actions, or making remarks like 'non-religious doesn't mean they don't believe in anything, it means they'll believe in anything', or saying that you never know what someone who doesn't believe in God will do because they have no basis for morality, or making mean remarks about people who believe differently from you, or saying that God's existence and goodness is immediately evident to anyone who looks at the universe, I might have told you.
I hate it when we fight about something and you scream at me that Satan is leading me straight on the path to Hell. Do you have any idea at all how much it hurts when you tell me that? I hate it when you ask me if I love Jesus, because I hate lying to you. I hate receiving the Eucharist, because I don't believe that it is the body of Christ, and pretending that I believe a piece of bread is Jesus' body and saying amen to that and eating it feels like the most terrible lie ever.
Right now, I hate you mom. I hate you. I hate you almost as much as I hate myself.



God is always there to help you. Even though it might sound hard, ask your priest/pastor if you can talk to him about this. Pray even harder. Everyone faces those times when they feel like God is not present in their lives. Mother Teresa faced it. She just prayed even harder and look where she ended up. I hope God finds a way in your life and remember, just dont stop praying.

I will be praying for you. :D

Confuzzled 11-04-2012 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Caleigh (Post 358446)
It's almost halfway through the second nine weeks at school. This year has gone by so fast and MREH. I don't want it to end so soon but I'm looking forward to so many things. First of all, in this rant, I hate how emotional I am. I find myself thinking really mean things when people ask me to do stuff for them, and I'm getting further and further away from God. I've quit praying altogether, and it seems the only reason I go to church is because I have alot of friends there. I don't want to be that kind of person, though. :/ I want to love God again and do all the things I used to do.
My second part of the rant for today is the fact highschool is coming faster than I had expected. I'm scared me and my five best friends are going to get seperated, and I guess I just don't want that to happen. All of them are on the highschool dance team as eighth graders, and they really want me to try out next year so we can all be together. I've played soccer for the past ten years, and although I took dance lessons when I was young...that was when I was young. xD I've been working so hard trying to learn my handstand, double pirouette, backroll, etc. But I'm scared I'm not going to learn everything in time. D: No one seems to understand how badly I want- and need- to make the dance team next year. I don't know if I'll have any classes with them, and I guess I just don't want to lose them. So for those of you who dance, any advice for me?



Yeah, I know it is hard. I have never been to high school, but I can see how stressful it is. As for loving God again, pray harder. Just take five minutes a day, and pray. It helps me if I pray outloud, (as long as no one is listening :D) so I can stay focused. Ask God to help you become closer to him. I know how it feels to slip away from God. I have been there, and it is hard.
As for dance, I have been taking ballet.. not for very long.. but advice. Stretch your muscles EVERY SINGLE DAY. Even if you dont do major dance moves, still stretch for five to ten minutes a day. Trust me, it helps SOOO much! Also, dont take dance lessons from your friends, unless you are 100 percent they are right. (I dont mean that in a bad way) What I am trying to say is, they might be doing it wrong, or siciling or something like that, then you start bad habits. Dont do that. :D

Good luck with life!

Ruza 11-04-2012 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Confuzzled (Post 358759)
God is always there to help you. Even though it might sound hard, ask your priest/pastor if you can talk to him about this. Pray even harder. Everyone faces those times when they feel like God is not present in their lives. Mother Teresa faced it. She just prayed even harder and look where she ended up. I hope God finds a way in your life and remember, just dont stop praying.

I will be praying for you. :D

I think that's pretty much the worst thing you can say to an atheist.
"Don't worry, God loves you! Just pray!"

Instead of trying to convert her, try to comfort her.

Confuzzled 11-04-2012 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruza (Post 358788)
I think that's pretty much the worst thing you can say to an atheist.
"Don't worry, God loves you! Just pray!"

Instead of trying to convert her, try to comfort her.

Thanks, that makes me feel really good about myself. I am just trying to help. I am not saying she has to convert, I am just trying to... whatever.

MaryElizabeth 11-04-2012 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Confuzzled (Post 358798)
Thanks, that makes me feel really good about myself. I am just trying to help. I am not saying she has to convert, I am just trying to... whatever.

But she's right. What if I said to you, "Don't worry! The Hindu gods forgive! Maybe you'll be reincarnated into a nice beetle when you die!"?

11-04-2012 11:44 AM

This is an emotional venting thread, not a religion one. Take this conversation elsewhere, please.

Rockshadow 11-04-2012 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruza (Post 358788)
I think that's pretty much the worst thing you can say to an atheist.
"Don't worry, God loves you! Just pray!"

Instead of trying to convert her, try to comfort her.

I agree with Ruza.

L.S.Trendom 11-04-2012 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Caleigh (Post 358804)
This is an emotional venting thread, not a religion one. Take this conversation elsewhere, please.

It's sort of on-topic.
But just end the conversation anyway. This isn't a thread for fighting.

Confuzzled 11-04-2012 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by L.S.Trendom (Post 358806)
It's sort of on-topic.
But just end the conversation anyway. This isn't a thread for fighting.

Yeah, I know. I was just trying to help… I'm sorry that I said that, ok? I meant for it to help, not hurt.
Oh, and also Mary Elizabeth, not to he rude or anything, but Hinduism is not what we were talking about. Even so, I'm not Hindu so it wouldn't affect me.

Ok, I'm done w/ that now. End of topic.?


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