To Graci:

Ooh, here's an idea. The soul colors, what if the characters who use that color attacks/soul mode killed that soul trait?

Like Undyne would have killed Kindness, Mettaton killed Justice, etc.

D: what a thought

I suppose Muffet killed Perseverance and Sans killed Integrity (because Papyrus, bless his nonexistent heart, would NEVER)

But it makes sense! Kindness doesn't come easily to Undyne, even though she loves people. She's rough. Mettaton unjustly leaves Napstablook in the dust and is threatening to do the same to Alphys. I don't know what's going on with Muffet, but Sans is a liar liar pants on fire canonically (or at least the keeper of the biggest secrets in the Underground). If they did kill those human children, maybe in doing so they murdered a little bit of the virtue in themselves.

(in my head, it's always been Asgore who killed the kids. if others were involved, they only captured them then sent them to him. his, therefore, is the highest lv in the underground barring war veterans)

Katchy, have you found my undertale fanfic yet?? I sort of want to link you, would you be interested? (I found Heartstrings btw. I find those kinds of au a bit...confusing...but interesting things can be done with them. I was very proud of myself for recognizing all the characters you used! Will go back and read it thoroughly later when I don't have applications hanging over my head.)

I'd like to read your fanfic!
Also, Sans wouldn't have made the promise to Toriel at the time Integrity came through, would he? And I think Asgore would have killed Bravery, he uses orange attacks.
Papyrus wouldn't... on purpose. From Patience's items (Toy Knife and White Ribbon), it seems like they might've been pretty young. And Papyrus could totally accidentally kill them, he's pretty strong. I think he might actually have higher ATK than Undyne, which is... (I don't want him to have done it though... Sans also uses blue attacks?)
And I think in True Pacifist, Mettaton hires Blooky as his sound assistant, which I think is adorable lol

No-- Sans wouldn't have made the promise. That makes sense. Also, Papyrus is definitely that strong. By the time we meet him in the game, he has enough control of himself to stop fighting you when you're at 1 hp. He might have gained that control after accidentally killing Patience. (But I don't think so. Papyrus is considerate enough that if he had accidentally killed Patience, he probably wouldn't be eager to fight a human again.)

YES BLOOKY WOULD BE THE BEST SOUND ASSISTANT.

Here's the story: https://www.kidpub.com/book-page-or-...ion-2955161771

It's an undertale prequel (read: me getting veerryyy curious about why Sans is so depressed yet would stand up to you anyway, also about the vague hints Flowey drops about what happened before you fell)

I think where this theory breaks down is that more than one character can use the same kind of attack, and one character uses more than one kind. If I remember correctly, Asgore can do both orange and blue. So can Papyrus??? (It's been a long time since I've played oof.)

Papyrus can't use orange attacks as far as I know. (I love how we're just completely nerding out on Undertale lol) Yeah, you're right about that. Maybe the monsters learnt the attacks/soul modes from the humans, and taught them to other monsters? Oh, and Undyne does say that Papyrus is "just too innocent and nice". So yeah, maybe Sans isn't as lazy as we thought...?

Idk, I think Sans is just as lazy as he looks in the game. But I think he hasn't always been that way.

Just looked at Papyrus's fight, you seem to be right

In one of the neutral endings, if you've killed some people but not Papyrus, Sans lies to him and tells him they're on vacation. Maybe, if Papyrus did accidentally kill Patience, Sans told him they were just knocked out or something?

Even with a very naïve and trusting read of papyrus I don’t know if you could conceal that from him. In the undertale verse it seems very...noticeable...if you kill someone. Like, would his LOVE increase? Would he feel that?

You can kill Papyrus???
.. i see. the game developers had an evil streak.