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DragonRider 02-06-2013 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheezemziez (Post 419329)
Sorry, I think?

There was a four year old who allegedly chain-smoked. JUST DON'T GIVE HIM CIGARETTES IN THE FIRST PLACE, LET ALONE LATER ON.

Don't be. It was wonderful.

O_O

cheezemziez 02-06-2013 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DragonRider (Post 419332)
Don't be. It was wonderful.

O_O

...Thanks?

There was an article a few years ago. I think the boy died.

HeatherB 02-06-2013 05:32 PM

oh my god
i hate depression
i'm being such a bitch to eVERYONE
and sald;ghsdgl;hsdgsdagl;h
i'm just pushing everyone away
but i really just want everyone to come back
after they're gone
and it's f---ing annoying
i can't win
when people are with me, i want to be as far away as possible, on my own, not caring about anything, just sitting alone in silence
but then
when they aren't with me, i want to just drown in their hugs and words and sa;ldhgsdgl;hsdgl;sdkhgl;sdgkhalsd;ghls;dgahksadgl hdsg
this is the f---ing worse ok
i can't even
UGH
also a question
what the f--- does one do after they're like, thirty? what is there to do after you've done everything you want to do? what is life worth living for then?

L.S.Trendom 02-06-2013 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeatherB (Post 419345)
oh my god
i hate depression
i'm being such a bitch to eVERYONE
and sald;ghsdgl;hsdgsdagl;h
i'm just pushing everyone away
but i really just want everyone to come back
after they're gone
and it's f---ing annoying
i can't win
when people are with me, i want to be as far away as possible, on my own, not caring about anything, just sitting alone in silence
but then
when they aren't with me, i want to just drown in their hugs and words and sa;ldhgsdgl;hsdgl;sdkhgl;sdgkhalsd;ghls;dgahksadgl hdsg
this is the f---ing worse ok
i can't even
UGH
also a question
what the f--- does one do after they're like, thirty? what is there to do after you've done everything you want to do? what is life worth living for then?

*hugs* I'm here.

You find something you love that you never want to stop doing, and you find people you love who make every second you're with them worth living. And you'll do it.

TheAshWolf 02-06-2013 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheezemziez (Post 419228)
Well, this is not a vent because I am feeling absolutely fine emotionally, but it's a kind of observation again, but this one could quite possibly be upsetting. I guess I'll put it in white in case anyone doesn't want to read it. I am so going to regret posting this. I don't mean to offend or disrespect anyone.

It kind of seems like society is trying to make us unhappy and misfortunate. There's this idea that richer, luckier, happier people are not as good people as the poor, unhappy and unlucky.
In primary school, my headteacher gave an assemblies about praying, and the Bible, and God. She told us a story about two men who were praying in the same church. One man was very fortunate. He was wealthy, and had a loving family, and he was thanking God for his kindness and generosity. The second man was an ex-criminal of some kind, and he was apologising to God, and praying for forgiveness and asking for a better life. Our headteacher told us that God favoured the second man over the first, despite telling us less than a week ago that God loved everyone equally. But I digress. She told us that God preferred him because he was unhappy, but still prayed.
People using guilt trips heavily imply that less fortunate people are better and more morally right. While this is often true, because of the emotional and physical strength and endurance needed to go through the suffering, they are not better people because they are less fortunate. People react to situations differently. There are people who would be amazing and strong through hard times, and there are people who would get angry and hateful and horrible if presented with the exact same situation. In the same way, lucky people can be positive and help others, or mock the less fortunate and abuse their supposed superiority.
When people die, especially in tragic circumstances such as random murders and suicide, everyone is suddenly praising them, and saying that they were wonderful, and the best. Even the kids who were bullied by everyone, and thought of as useless and stupid, thus forcing them into taking their own lives, are remembered by the very people who abused them as brilliant and whatnot. Why couldn't you have told them that when it could have saved them? Maybe because they feel guilty for being alive, maybe they feel sorry for the one who died, maybe they're showing respect to the dead, or maybe they do actually think that in dying, the deceased has risen above and beyond the living, that they are automatically better than everyone else. It's almost as if they think that dying in tragedy makes you a better person.
But it doesn't. You are still the same person as you were when you were alive. So to everyone reading this: You are wonderful, brilliant, intelligent, amazing, and so many other things, and you don't need to suffer for people to think that. No-one who is sentient is faultless. But no-one deserves suffering, and feeling sorry for them won't help them either.

cheezemziez, I'm afraid your teacher did not convey the right message with that story. That story she was telling is one of the illustrations Jesus told. It's found at Luke 18:9-14. (Have a link to it. ^_^ http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/luke/18#v-9) The point was not that the Pharisee was richer and the tax collector was poorer, and that's why God favored the tax collector's prayer. Jesus comes out and explains the point: "I tell ​YOU, This man went down to his home proved more righteous than that man; because everyone that exalts himself will be humiliated, but he that humbles himself will be exalted." If you read the account directly, you'll see that the Pharisee was thanking God that he was not "as the rest of men, extortioners, unrighteous, adulterers, or even as this tax collector." Then he went on to tell God how much better he was than the tax collector in his deeds. On the other hand, the tax collector was humble. He admitted he was a sinner, and asked forgiveness. The Pharisee made himself out to be without sin, when, in reality, we're all imperfect sinners no matter what some of our good deeds are. And it was not that God loved the tax collector more, it was that the tax collector was more righteous, and God had more favor for his prayer because he was humble.

But, back on the topic of the other things you're talking about. <:^/ You're right--our society IS geared towards unhappiness. We isolate ourselves with our video games and strive to get the means to acquire the latest technology. What you have and what you don't have is a status symbol. Meanwhile, we're bombarded with depressing/terrifying news stories, propaganda, and commercials that instill fear of everything in our hearts. (Actual ad I saw: "I bought his vacuum cleaner because I love my family!" PSYCHOLOGICAL TRANSLATION: "If you don't buy this vacuum, then you don't love your family, and that makes you a bad person. Do you want to be a bad person? Do you want your family to hate you for not taking care of their house? Go buy this vacuum, and you won't be a bad person, and your family will love you back.") :(

And you're right about poorer people not necessarily being better people. Many are very strong-willed and honest, but many are abusive and others steal. It all depends on what's happening in their life, how they were raised, and who they really are. Meanwhile, even though a lot of rich people are greedy and uncaring, some are philanthropists, and, hey, what's the definition of "rich"? To a starving Ugandan, we're all rich. Just because we have a constant supply of good food, clean water, a house to live in, and access to a hot shower does not necessarily mean we're all greedy and heartless people. Some people are, some people aren't. Again, it all depends on what's happening in their life, how they were raised, and who they really are.

And, also, you're right again about dying not making someone a better person. While, according to the Bible, death does relieve a person of all their sins (since "the wages sin pays is death", and that means if one pay off their sins with death, they're automatically forgiven) that still does not mean they didn't do the things they did when they were alive, and that does not make them perfect. (And that's certainly no reason to kill yourself--God does not approve of suicide.) Is it nicer to remember someone for only the good things they did? Yes. That's how you should remember them. But you shouldn't idolize them like they were flawless.

HeatherB 02-06-2013 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.S.Trendom (Post 419346)
*hugs* I'm here.

You find something you love that you never want to stop doing, and you find people you love who make every second you're with them worth living. And you'll do it.

hello *hugs back*

Okay, maybe, writing. And acting and stuff. But I seriously doubt that anyone would ever like, really love me. Even if I loved them, who'd love me back? Especially if they knew me, and by 'me' I mean 'all of me'-- the okay and the supershitty, that is. *sighs* *ignore ignore ignore this is me bitching insecurely*

soph-soph27 02-06-2013 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueMi (Post 419327)
Today was meh.
I don't know what I'm doing wrong,
but every time I try
it's too late.
It's like

already over

even though
you said
it wasn't and

i miss you

and

i'm stupid
and
sorry

and

.

You can always email me. I'm here for you.

soph-soph27 02-06-2013 06:05 PM

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HeatherB 02-06-2013 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueMi (Post 419327)
Today was meh.
I don't know what I'm doing wrong,
but every time I try
it's too late.
It's like

already over

even though
you said
it wasn't and

i miss you

and

i'm stupid
and
sorry

and

.

email ?

cheezemziez 02-06-2013 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheAshWolf (Post 419355)
cheezemziez, I'm afraid your teacher did not convey the right message with that story. That story she was telling is one of the illustrations Jesus told. It's found at Luke 18:9-14. (Have a link to it. ^_^ http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/luke/18#v-9) The point was not that the Pharisee was richer and the tax collector was poorer, and that's why God favored the tax collector's prayer. Jesus comes out and explains the point: "I tell ​YOU, This man went down to his home proved more righteous than that man; because everyone that exalts himself will be humiliated, but he that humbles himself will be exalted." If you read the account directly, you'll see that the Pharisee was thanking God that he was not "as the rest of men, extortioners, unrighteous, adulterers, or even as this tax collector." Then he went on to tell God how much better he was than the tax collector in his deeds. On the other hand, the tax collector was humble. He admitted he was a sinner, and asked forgiveness. The Pharisee made himself out to be without sin, when, in reality, we're all imperfect sinners no matter what some of our good deeds are. And it was not that God loved the tax collector more, it was that the tax collector was more righteous, and God had more favor for his prayer because he was humble.

But, back on the topic of the other things you're talking about. <:^/ You're right--our society IS geared towards unhappiness. We isolate ourselves with our video games and strive to get the means to acquire the latest technology. What you have and what you don't have is a status symbol. Meanwhile, we're bombarded with depressing/terrifying news stories, propaganda, and commercials that instill fear of everything in our hearts. (Actual ad I saw: "I bought his vacuum cleaner because I love my family!" PSYCHOLOGICAL TRANSLATION: "If you don't buy this vacuum, then you don't love your family, and that makes you a bad person. Do you want to be a bad person? Do you want your family to hate you for not taking care of their house? Go buy this vacuum, and you won't be a bad person, and your family will love you back.") :(

And you're right about poorer people not necessarily being better people. Many are very strong-willed and honest, but many are abusive and others steal. It all depends on what's happening in their life, how they were raised, and who they really are. Meanwhile, even though a lot of rich people are greedy and uncaring, some are philanthropists, and, hey, what's the definition of "rich"? To a starving Ugandan, we're all rich. Just because we have a constant supply of good food, clean water, a house to live in, and access to a hot shower does not necessarily mean we're all greedy and heartless people. Some people are, some people aren't. Again, it all depends on what's happening in their life, how they were raised, and who they really are.

And, also, you're right again about dying not making someone a better person. While, according to the Bible, death does relieve a person of all their sins (since "the wages sin pays is death", and that means if one pay off their sins with death, they're automatically forgiven) that still does not mean they didn't do the things they did when they were alive, and that does not make them perfect. (And that's certainly no reason to kill yourself--God does not approve of suicide.) Is it nicer to remember someone for only the good things they did? Yes. That's how you should remember them. But you shouldn't idolize them like they were flawless.

Oh, I wasn't commenting on the story itself. I haven't read the Bible, and to be honest it really confuses me. It was about how the headteacher presented it to us, and the tender age of six.

O_O That advert is extremely arrogant.

Geary, if I die before you, then I entrust to you the duty of making sure that no-one lies at my funeral. (also, try not to let anyone piss on the coffin. Or let giant vultures blow the room up in an attempt to gain control of the TARDIS)


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