Just don't fat-shame people.
If you fat-shame someone, I've probably lost some/all respect for you.

She's NOT "fat-shaming" anyone. O_o The truth is, being obese is dangerous to a person's health and reduces their lifespan considerably. Being obese does NOT make a person worth less, or give them something to be ashamed about, or mean that they're bad people on the inside. They're merely in an unstable condition, and need to attend to their health problem. Just keep in mind that "obese" doesn't mean ten or twenty or even thirty pounds overweight. It's a clinical term for being seriously overweight to the point where the person's health is in peril. You don't just go from being underweight to obese, or even at a healthy weight to obese.

Point is: If a person is obese, then that isn't good, but they're still a wonderful, beautiful person inside and out. They just need to attend to their health the best they can. If a person is simply overweight, then that's fine, as long as it's not hurting them physically. If someone is a few pounds above what they think they should be, then, it doesn't really matter as long as they're healthy and SHOULD NOT LISTEN TO anyone who makes fun of them, since there is nothing to make fun OF. The same goes to someone who is a few pounds under what they think they should be. If someone is anorexic or very underweight, then, like someone who is obese, they still have worth, but they need to attend to their health before they further damage their bodies.

No. I mean 5'10. As tall as my mom. She had this weird growth spurt and so she's ten and looks like a really long string bean standing on end


ugh I am starting to really dislike him.

I never said she was. But I felt I needed to make it clear, because it is very easy to cross the line between, "Being obese is dangerous." and "Ohmygod I can't stand fat people."

I am finally– FINALLY– deleting all of my posts on KP. Maybe not all but most.

Well, she wasn't crossing that line, and didn't appear to even be near it. I understand what you mean, though. I dislike people who act like that...borderline hate them. Several of my most cherished friends are overweight. Even though they still laugh at fat jokes and occasionally poke fun at themselves, it still makes me want to scream when someone says anything to discriminate against people with weight problems.

O___O WHAT? Max, why would you do that?! Stop, wait...what's wrong?

Ash, there's nearly 30 pages of writing and people don't even read it since it's from like 2009 or 2010 and I'm sick of it lying there. Posts gonna die. (*grabs bazooka*)

I want to ask Perry if he can wipe the posts away.

OMG YOU DO HOW CONVENIENT

But, Max, you're not just erasing posts, you're erasing your HISTORY on KidPub! O_O

Okay. :P It doesn't mean Future Wars won't be a published book anymore--Ash, I'm so sick of 29 pages being there and they need to go except for the polls but I want them to go, too.

Well, it's not like I can stop you or anything. I'm just trying to make sure that you thought this through and are okay with this, y'know? <:^D And you do have a point...there are some posts of mine I'd like to delete, too.

Yeah I have thought it through. Yay I went from 29 to 23 pages.

^_^ Hope it works out well for you, Max.

That is not an easy line to cross. They're two points of view that don't match in my brain. One is logical, the other beyond ridiculous. There was obviously no danger of fat-shaming, so - oh god, it was your interpretation. You, like everyone else, perceive things differently. EPIPHANY! Other people draw the metaphorical line at different things and it is offensive to think they are wrong just because you were also right.

Sorry, I completely jumped into a dead conversation about mass. Oops.

I'm not. I'm just saying that if you're so obese that it's unhealthy, you should really go on a diet. Doesn't affect my opinion of them, not that I know them enough to have an opinion of them.

60 pounds?!

It's not, actually. This matter was about their physical health more than their psychological health and not at all about how we should treat them. If you look fat and not too severely overweight, it's completely fine.

Not coming? Yeah, I figured that. I figured that you wouldn't come because you just shut everyone out no matter if they're trying to help you or what. It seems like you just stopped caring about us. I used to rush to the computer to email you about my day every single afternoon. You were always so nice and if something didn't go my way that day you would tell me it's okay and not to listen to them. You helped me. I don't think you realize that. You helped me through if I had a bad day by making me laugh or smile. On some levels I wanted you to come on saturday just so I could see the look on your face when you realize we grew up. I'm not the cute little 2nd grader anymore. I'm going to middle school in two weeks.
It used to feel like you just shut my parents out because we just didn't understand. Now that we're older and we understand better, you shut all of us out. I just want you to know, that you are missing out, big time.

Calling thin people names is just as bad as making fun of obesity. So, you can't call anyone a 'twig'.

Very good point. 0_0

How people always think being thin is a good thing...but you have a point there.

...on the topic of weight, according to this website, I'm underweight. e_e I'm 5"1 and 90 pounds. I think that's perfectly normal, but apparently it isn't...? Okay. That's weird.

EDIT: Never mind, did one for teens. I'm normal. XD

No, wait, she's like sixty seven. Point is, she's scary.

AND SHE'S GOT THE THINNEST LEGS EVER *creys* I have, like, really jiggly calves. *shakes calves*


and she eats like twice what I do. Including the junk food I eat.

That would make her BMI 9.6 Anything under 18.5 is underweight.

...I think you're exaggerating.

It is a good thing, as long as you stay healthy.

I don't understand how anyone can say that they accept people's body weight if they don't pay attention to the other half of the spectrum.

You don't need to address it if you think it'd make her uncomfortable, just let her know that you're always willing to help and that you'll accept her.

According to this website, I'm overweight: http://fit.webmd.com/teen/bmi/calc-bmi

M'kay, time to look here, honey, 'cause I've got some experience in this particular situation.

First of all, if you're truly 5'10", you're extremely tall for your age. I'm fourteen and 5'7", one of the tallest girls in my grade. You might wanna remeasure yourself before making proper judgement on if your weight, because the taller you are, the heaver you're going to be. The average weight for twelve-year-old girls is about 100 lbs., but the average height is about 5'1 1/2". Therefore, you're not going to weigh the same amount as the average girl. It's just natural.
(Also, taller girls are naturally stronger than those of average height, so if you've got muscle, you're gonna weigh more as well. Muscle weighs more than fat.)

Second of all, if you're self-conscious about your body, you want to wear just the opposite of baggy clothes. If you wear sweatpants and tees two sizes too big all the time, you're going to feel lazier, feel like you could eat more. That's exactly what you don't want to feel. You wanna get clothes that fit correctly to your body shape and make you feel as fabulous as you look. It's a pain shopping for them, I know, and can feel embarrassing, but it's worth it. Once you've got a wardrobe of nicely-fitting shirts and cute pants you love, you won't feel so sour about getting up in the morning and picking our your outfit. Don't be too judgmental on yourself trying on clothes, but don't warp your reflection just because you want something to fit. It's best to get another person's opinion on it as well as your own, judging them both equally before reaching a verdict. Picking our clothes you like is a challenge, but don't pick out ones that make you feel less than you want to. That's just a drag.

Third of all, don't starve yourself. Don't. But don't gorge yourself, either. Eat only when you're hungry, and don't stuff yourself full when you are. If your parents call you to dinner and your stomach doesn't feel empty, explain to them that you only want to eat when you're hungry so you can lose weight. Hopefully, they go for it. Try to stick to healthier foods, but don't let yourself become a vegetarian if it's absolute torture to you. Do what feels best to you, even if you really really really want that last cupcake.

Fourth of all, try to get out and exercise. Yeah, you'll get all sweaty and tired, but it will help you sleep, get you hungry, and make you feel a hell of a lot better than just sitting around all day.

(haha i am such a hypocrite at the moment ;-; )

Fifth of all, don't get so down on yourself. Looking in the mirror and calling yourself ugly ain't gonna make you lose weight. Trying to skin the extra fat from your forearm with a razor won't do you any good. Hating yourself won't make you love yourself. Accept that you've got weight issues and try to do something about it. If people call you fat, yeah, it's gonna hurt, but you can't just go through life terrified they're gonna pick on you. It may be the toughest thing in the world, but you can at least attempt to pack up all those little worries and throw 'em out the window. Be what you're gonna be and don't let anyone fuck with you, 'cause no matter how gross you feel, there's always gonna be some way you can pick yourself up off the ground, whether it's with someone else's help or you just being your own hero. You're gonna have moments where you're stuck, but if you can unstick yourself and take care of yourself, life's gonna be a hell of a lot smoother. Don't let little things like weight get you down, 'cause that's just fucking stupid. You're fucking fantastic if you think you're fucking fantastic. \o/

Very true.

Troye Sivan (a youtuber) uploaded a video yesterday revealing he is gay. It really got me thinking. Why is gay marriage a problem in the first place? How did it start? Did someone just say that they were attracted to their own sex and then people thought it was so wrong and disgusting they made a name for it? I just don't understand why it's an issue in the first place. Gay marriage is just marriage. You should still cry of happiness at their wedding even if it's two men or two women. Love is love. It has no gender.
His video not only got me thinking but made me weep. The first time I saw it I smiled, the second I got teary, the third there was tears running down my face. He is so brave for coming out and telling the whole internet who he is. I then watched his "We're my OTP" video for about the 50th time and cried at it for the first time. It is just so beautiful.

i love this post so much omg *glomps you*

Maybe. The last time we checked her weight was, like, a while ago. e_e

Thanks! :)

It's actually super easy to cross that line.
It's easy to cross the line between concerned and fat-shamey because I hear it every.single.day. with friends, online people, and family.
I heard "i'm really concerned about your health because of how big you are." at my lunch table while people didn't even consider to be concerned the people who didn't eat anything at all at lunch. In that way, it's fat-shaming, because it's more acceptable to be skinny than to be fat. They were concerned with a fat person more than they were concerned with the people who actually skipped lunch every single day. Why? Because people only get the mindset that it's not okay to be fat.
And I hear my family say stuff like, "You need to lose weight." and when I ask why, they make various excuses from stuff like "Boys won't like you." (well boys can fuck off im here to live not for peoples approval) to "Because it's unhealthy."
It's easy to mask fat-shaming as being concerned, and I'm not accusing anyone of doing so, and I KNOW Lauren never would, but I'm just pointing out, it IS easy to fat shame, even when people don't know it.

also whoA oops
okay so usually when I say "you" I mean it in general.
lemme see if this helps
"and if someone fat shames another person, I've probably lost all respect for them."
okay bc if that's the problem, yeah sorry, I didn't mean you specifically, Lauren.

…when you play sport you're supposed to compete, aren't you?
why aren't you competing?
max compete in the game try your best all is going to be fine.
i don't like sport. i never have. i'm the academic kid and when sport comes along i get scared of the responses i will get.
i'm worried.

this is me one hundred percent.

Because of your post I watched the video, even though I don't follow Troye (or any YouTubers for that matter). And the whole time I thought of this post.
Camille, are you sure you're only 10 years old, or are you some 27-year-old woman smashed into a small body? Because you're seriously thinking deeper than I ever have on this subject and this...is a beautiful post, to say it simply. I completely agree with you on every level.

Thank you so much. You just made my night! :D

This.
It should be.
The point is on masking. If you're trying to use 'it's unhealthy' as an excuse, yes, it's easy. If you're genuine, I doubt it.
DAFUQ YOU'RE SUPER SKINNY
My dad refused to admit he's fat-shaming. Yesterday, at Glacier Point in Yosemite, there was a fattish (okay, fat) person climbing up a rock to take picture and he whispered jokingly 'just stop it. You're so fat, get down before you break the rock.' he claimed it was harmless because it was in Cantonese, but that's just the same as talking behind's someone's back.
(I punched him in the public)
I can't exactly relate because I'm naturally competitive, even with things that I hate like Chinese, but I still work hard with it because it will affect my grades, and that I care about. But if my art teacher forces our whole class to join an art competition, I can't exactly be enthusiastic about it and I just randomly take a picture of our school.