Originally Posted by TheAshWolf (Post 517135)

(*hugs*) I'm so sorry, CT...you don't deserve to go through this kind of stress. D: I'm sure you can help...just being there for them, letting them know you're willing to listen to them, actively doing things to show you care and that you need them...all of that adds up, and really can make a difference for someone. <:^) It takes some effort, but, I know you can do it. You're strong enough to do that. And, if all else fails, you might be able to get them help from someone else, like a therapist or a parent.

A lot of people believe in fate and destiny and whatnot...it's easy to think that, since SO many religions teach it. But, did you know that the Bible DOESN'T actually teach that? On the contrary, it says a lot about our free will, and how we can change our own lives.

That's actually part of what the whole God-made-man-in-his-image subject means. Unlike most animals, we have the capacity to display qualities like love, justice, and have complete free will. ^_^ We're not totally governed by instinct, and God does not force us to do things.

Take a look at what Deuteronomy 30:19, 20 says. "...I have put life and death before you, the blessing and the curse; and you must choose life so that you may live, you and your descendants, by loving Jehovah your God, by listening to his voice, and by sticking to him, for he is your life and by him you will endure a long time." This is just one of many scriptures urging us to CHOOSE a life course that will result in current and future blessings, instead of permanent destruction.

Now, while there are things God DID set up and put into motion, like the ransom sacrifice that would allow our sins to be forgiven, he does not preordain most things. Instead, since he is all-powerful, can see into the future at will, and determine how a person or situation will turn out based on their personality, or circumstances. Like, how we can predict our friend's reaction to something, because we know them so well. But, looking into the future is something God chooses to do at will; he's not constantly looking into the future or predicting things. A good example of this is when God was about to investigate the actions of the people in Sodom and Gomorrah. Genesis 18:20 says that God wanted to "see whether they are acting according to the outcry that has reached me. And if not, I can get to know it."

I know it hurts to see someone in so much pain because of their mental and/or emotional health. ;_; I know a LOT of people with severe depression, and I struggle with a mild form of it, too. But, notice that 2 Corinthians 1:3, 4 calls God, "the Father of tender mercies and the God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our trials." Also, Psalms 34:18 says, "Jehovah [God] is close to the brokenhearted; He saves those who are crushed in spirit." And 1 Thessalonians 5:14 says, "On the other hand, we exhort YOU, brothers...speak consolingly to the depressed souls, support the weak, be long-suffering toward all." See, God does not want people to be sad! He encourages his followers to take care of each other, and to give special care to those who are depressed and weak. ^_^

The best part, though, is a promise directly from God found at Revelation 21:4. "And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore." Although God is allowing suffering to continue for the moment, he will soon permanently get rid of the causes, memory, and the experience of suffering! (Why he allows it is another subject entirely, but, there IS a good reason for it. The point is, he does not cause it, but allows it for now, and will get rid of it soon. But, in case you're wondering why there's so much suffering to begin with and what its source is, here's a link to an explanation of that: http://www.jw.org/en/publications/ma...uch-suffering/ )

So, why are some people born with mental health issues, or are born into stressful circumstances? Simply put, it's the result of sin, which makes us imperfect physically and emotionally. Adam and Eve were perfect, and did not have to deal with things like that until they sinned, and introduced imperfection to all mankind...kind of like a dented bread pan. No matter how many loaves are made with it, each loaf will have that same big dent in it. Over time and use, that dent in the pan can get bigger, and effect the bread it produces, although it was once flawless.


TL;DR:
The Bible doesn't teach that fate exists.
We have free will and can change the course of our lives.
God WANTS us to be happy, and we'll be happy if we obey him and ask for help.
God can see into the future, but does not preordain the course of everyone's life, nor does he constantly look into the future. He has planned things out before, but does not do this for everything all the time.
Instead, God accurately predicts how someone will act based on their personality, heart, and circumstances.
God loves us and will gladly help us out.
He will soon remove the effects of sin, and thus get rid of death and all kinds of suffering. In the meantime, though, he makes it clear how to be the safest and happiest in life. Seriously...God's plan for us ISN'T to be unhappy, it's for us to be happy and enjoy life.
Instead of being given imperfect things like mental/emotional health issues by God, we were given those things by Adam, Eve, and Satan. These things are part of what sin and imperfection brings us.

(Sorry that was so long. X_x I just wanted to back up what I was saying with references directly from the Bible, since, y'know, that's what I'm trying to explain. <:^D What the Bible really says on the subject.)


I TOTALLY respect your right to choose to have faith or not, CT. <:^3 And I don't know if your friends trust what the Bible says or not. But, I sincerely hope you're okay, and that things turn out well for you AND your friends. (*hugs and gives cookies*) Let me know if there's anything I can do, or if you want/need to vent about it. Remember, you are awesome and stronger than you think!

Originally Posted by TheMoonWakedWolf (Post 517325)

I really hope ur right man it would be awesome to know that I matter tho
Thank you tho that actually helped me dude thank u *hug*

Originally Posted by HeatherB (Post 517380)

ok she texted me literally one emoji today and i near fell out of my chair i was so relieved that she's alive
ok i will try to remember to email u on friday so u may tell me the thing

i stopped believing in god because im not sure why i ever did. i was never allowed to have my own opinion on god; i was forced into church and confirmation and raised with the belief that OF COURSE god was real, why shouldnt god be real?????? but then i grew up and started thinking logically like "why the fuck do i actually have to believe this bs it makes no sense to me" (IM SO SORRY THATS RLLY OFFENSIVE BUT IF A THING LITERALLY DOESNT MAKE SENSE TO ME I CANT ACCEPT IT IM SORRY FOR BEING AN OFFENSIVE PRICK)

omfg i really want to kiss her but i cant bc there're always people around grrrrrrrr fuckin homophobes
it would be my first kiss and probably hers too HGSLDHSLKGSHKLGSGD
im sorry i got kinda hooked on the kissing part
oops
thank you *hugs*

okay, i don't have autism, but i'm clinically depressed and this is basically how i feel. i mean, aside from being depressed, i'm actually really happy that i'm depressed if that makes sense at all because in my eyes i'm the worst person i know, so this is the best thing that could happen to be. i love being depressed, in a sick way. and whenever i feel myself starting to be better about myself, that's when i hate myself the most. because how could i love a person fucked up as myself? that's fucked up. so i hate myself for that and then i love myself for hating myself and hate myself for loving myself and work myself into a stressed state void of any other emotion than a general world-weariness.
but yes, i do like myself when i hate myself.
but when i like myself, i hate myself.
im sorry. this isnt making much sense its so hard to put this into words ok i should stop typing

Originally Posted by Lily09 (Post 517429)

tw for suicide
i was watching glee the other day and rachel said to finn, "you said you'd never break up with me!" and finn replied "i never thought you'd make me feel this way."
out of context, that would be my entire situation.
except im a manipulative bitch who can't let go because i can't trust that i won't get hurt over it.
its hard to say i do when i dont --fall out boy.
to be honest, i hate myself for sinking this low, i hate me for being an absolute asshole to you, and i'm trying to be better for you, but at the same time i feel like i should leave for both of us, i'd be happier, and you wouldn't be in this awful manipulative friendship.
except i've left too many times and i need to fix this but i dont know how other than killing myself.
i'm too much of a bitch, too heartless, too stupid to even be here. all i do is whine about things and make ppls lives 100x worse. i want to be a better person because people want me to, not because its the right thing to do.
i feel like all my friends are better than me and i suck at everything and i probably actually do!! i suck at writing and singing and dancing and even communicating and doing math and doing science and making people feel better and being a good friend i literally just suck at everything and maybe the only thing i wont suck at is killing myself!! except maybe ill fail at that too!! or maybe i wont even be able to because ill be too scared and guess what ill continue to suck at being a human being.

Originally Posted by TheAshWolf (Post 517459)

So this is what I've been reduced to.

Looking up and listening to really sad/angsty songs on YouTube, belting out the most overused, stereotypical lyrics in the world, and being able to identify with every single word to the letter.

And the worst part is, I've lost almost all of the people who I could've (comfortably) vented about my issues with. So, instead, I turn to music. But these songs are sO FREAKING STEREOTYPICAL AND OVERUSED ACK SOMEONE HELP I DoN'T LiKe tHiS I FEEL SO DUMB SINGING THESE SONGS TO MYSELF AND KNOWING THEY FIT PERFECTLY
ACK

Originally Posted by LaurenM (Post 517465)

Yes but isn't God supposed to have created Adam and Eve and basically everything? And that he's omnipotent and omniscient? That means he knows full well that they're going to sin, so why did he make them like that in the first place? Oh, and that tree in the garden of Eden, he made that too. So technically he was the origin of Sin.

Originally Posted by LaurenM (Post 517465)

Yes but isn't God supposed to have created Adam and Eve and basically everything? And that he's omnipotent and omniscient? That means he knows full well that they're going to sin, so why did he make them like that in the first place? Oh, and that tree in the garden of Eden, he made that too. So technically he was the origin of Sin.

Originally Posted by blossom (Post 517214)

I know I'm normally kind of calm on here. I've never been anorexic or anything but tbh today I just wanted to be thin, and not eat, and just not have these stupid wide thighs or "muscular" calves (they aren't fucking muscular), just to not eat for a long time but not have people ask questions.

Originally Posted by rebecca (Post 517338)

Not really, just better at pretending than most. That's what I'd say. Pseudoawesomness, to cover for my writhing anxiety (okay, it's not that bad. More squirming than writhing. But squirming anxiety sounds silly), arrogance (which the supposed awesomeness invalidates because it makes my opinion of myself correct), bouts of low confidence (I can't talk to sales assistants, too awkward, and yet I think of myself as a brilliant human being who deserves medals and awards and love) and difficulty empathising, which is shit when you miss someone's anger and make a joke that really offends them an makes you look stupid.

Also, I'm very manipulative, especially online. I think about how my words could swing the person to my point of view, I guilt-trip, I complement them, I even do book swaps (most recently) to placate people. I don't care about them before I get myself on their bad side, but when I am, I try to make them feel bad for hating me. And I can't stop myself doing this. Sometimes I don't even realise I am. It's horrible because it means I'm a bad person and probably a psychopath. I just like pulling strings. I'm not this awesome god of Kidpub. I've put myself in that place and I use people. What makes it worse is the fact I'm not a true psychopath, so I feel guilt. I mean, I can't really manipulate Lauren, she knows me too well, but everyone else only sees the KidPub front. Nearly every word is carefully thought about, in relation to how the other person could react. It's terrifying, realising how evil you really are. Even more terrifying telling you, because, what, I don't know, people might find this cruel, callous. I still care about them! I do! But I will also try and manipulate them, almost instinctively. It's life. It's what I do.

I'm not overly good at manipulating people either. Most of them just hate me. So I suppose it evens out. Please don't ask me to stop guys, I can't turn it off, and please be aware that much of what I say has a purpose.

Possibly the ability to bluff this well is the making of real awesomeness.

Originally Posted by HeatherB (Post 517380)

ok she texted me literally one emoji today and i near fell out of my chair i was so relieved that she's alive
ok i will try to remember to email u on friday so u may tell me the thing

i stopped believing in god because im not sure why i ever did. i was never allowed to have my own opinion on god; i was forced into church and confirmation and raised with the belief that OF COURSE god was real, why shouldnt god be real?????? but then i grew up and started thinking logically like "why the fuck do i actually have to believe this bs it makes no sense to me" (IM SO SORRY THATS RLLY OFFENSIVE BUT IF A THING LITERALLY DOESNT MAKE SENSE TO ME I CANT ACCEPT IT IM SORRY FOR BEING AN OFFENSIVE PRICK)

omfg i really want to kiss her but i cant bc there're always people around grrrrrrrr fuckin homophobes
it would be my first kiss and probably hers too HGSLDHSLKGSHKLGSGD
im sorry i got kinda hooked on the kissing part
oops
thank you *hugs*

okay, i don't have autism, but i'm clinically depressed and this is basically how i feel. i mean, aside from being depressed, i'm actually really happy that i'm depressed if that makes sense at all because in my eyes i'm the worst person i know, so this is the best thing that could happen to be. i love being depressed, in a sick way. and whenever i feel myself starting to be better about myself, that's when i hate myself the most. because how could i love a person fucked up as myself? that's fucked up. so i hate myself for that and then i love myself for hating myself and hate myself for loving myself and work myself into a stressed state void of any other emotion than a general world-weariness.
but yes, i do like myself when i hate myself.
but when i like myself, i hate myself.
im sorry. this isnt making much sense its so hard to put this into words ok i should stop typing


all the stuff i bolded, that's me. except im not manipulative online at all. which is why i had to create laurel. because if i'm not manipulative then i'm not really me and even though laurel is sort of a manipulation of myself she's all the good honest nice qualities that i see in everyone else and the depression that i see in myself put into one. she is, in a form, my truest unbiased unmanipulated self. (p.s. if you dont follow my tumblr everything about laurel makes zero sense so i apologize)

Originally Posted by Lily09 (Post 517429)

tw for suicide
i was watching glee the other day and rachel said to finn, "you said you'd never break up with me!" and finn replied "i never thought you'd make me feel this way."
out of context, that would be my entire situation.
except im a manipulative bitch who can't let go because i can't trust that i won't get hurt over it.
its hard to say i do when i dont --fall out boy.
to be honest, i hate myself for sinking this low, i hate me for being an absolute asshole to you, and i'm trying to be better for you, but at the same time i feel like i should leave for both of us, i'd be happier, and you wouldn't be in this awful manipulative friendship.
except i've left too many times and i need to fix this but i dont know how other than killing myself.
i'm too much of a bitch, too heartless, too stupid to even be here. all i do is whine about things and make ppls lives 100x worse. i want to be a better person because people want me to, not because its the right thing to do.
i feel like all my friends are better than me and i suck at everything and i probably actually do!! i suck at writing and singing and dancing and even communicating and doing math and doing science and making people feel better and being a good friend i literally just suck at everything and maybe the only thing i wont suck at is killing myself!! except maybe ill fail at that too!! or maybe i wont even be able to because ill be too scared and guess what ill continue to suck at being a human being.

Originally Posted by L.S.Trendom (Post 517467)

i aaaam YOU DO MATTER OK DUDE
hell ya *hugs*


*tackle hugs* ok not sure if u need to know the thing now but i will tell u the thing anyway just in case

i can sorta relate to that omg

EEEEE YOU SHOULD KISS HER *fangirls*

i know that feel
eeyyyy man you don't fucking deserve to hate yourself, you don't deserve to be depressed. *hugs* SHUT THE FUCK UP OK U ARE ONE OF MY FAVOURITE PEOPLE

Originally Posted by LaurenM (Post 517471)

It actually does make sense, the hating yourself for loving yourself for hating yourself...and on and on...thing. But don't hate yourself for loving yourself because if I'm not mistaken you usually are nicer to people if you're nice to yourself. It's nice to love yourself period

Originally Posted by Lily09 (Post 517429)

tw for suicide
i was watching glee the other day and rachel said to finn, "you said you'd never break up with me!" and finn replied "i never thought you'd make me feel this way."
out of context, that would be my entire situation.
except im a manipulative bitch who can't let go because i can't trust that i won't get hurt over it.
its hard to say i do when i dont --fall out boy.
to be honest, i hate myself for sinking this low, i hate me for being an absolute asshole to you, and i'm trying to be better for you, but at the same time i feel like i should leave for both of us, i'd be happier, and you wouldn't be in this awful manipulative friendship.
except i've left too many times and i need to fix this but i dont know how other than killing myself.
i'm too much of a bitch, too heartless, too stupid to even be here. all i do is whine about things and make ppls lives 100x worse. i want to be a better person because people want me to, not because its the right thing to do.
i feel like all my friends are better than me and i suck at everything and i probably actually do!! i suck at writing and singing and dancing and even communicating and doing math and doing science and making people feel better and being a good friend i literally just suck at everything and maybe the only thing i wont suck at is killing myself!! except maybe ill fail at that too!! or maybe i wont even be able to because ill be too scared and guess what ill continue to suck at being a human being.

Originally Posted by rebecca (Post 517454)

No, it's fine. What is your tumblr?

Originally Posted by LaurenM (Post 517471)

You manipulated me one time. BUT OTHERWISE I'M IMMUNE!
But seriously, you've improved. Morally. I don't see you pointing out every grammatical mistakes and non-capitalised words. And you're the only person I can go full-out sarcastic with, you have a weird sense of humour and he only person who can do these fake lies like hearing people sizzle on the frying pan or whatever it was without worrying about being stupid
I guess you can call that immature but if everyone's so serious all the time (aka mature) the world would be really boring

Originally Posted by SeptemberLove (Post 214872)

I'm mean to everyone. Not that I insult them, but I'm just so... silent... that it's offending. People thinkit's personal and feel like I dno't want to talk to them specifically. D:

Plus this guy that I liked asked me out, and I said no all mean annoyed like even though I really wanted to go with him. :eek:

This si a really good idea for a thread, though.

Originally Posted by HeatherB (Post 517475)

oh btw im not gonna be able to email u friday because i have circus then but could you email me on thursday instead if that'd work??
ok cool

I REALLY WANT TO KISS HER GRRRRRRRRRR

you don't deserve to be depressed either. but life is fucking stupid soo *hugs you back*

no the thing is that deep down i know i dont have to be depressed i could actually be happy if i really tried or whatever but on the other hand im such a shitty person and i deserve to hate myself but actually i'm pretty sure that i love myself because im really selfish and self-centered and annoying but i still love myself but because i do i hate myself because i also hate myself because im the worst person i've ever met
my problem is i'm the opposite of depressed but i realize that with what a horrible person i am i /should/ be depressed and hate myself, but i can't