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Old 01-03-2017, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverMoon View Post
adultery and unmarried sex: make sense, even if I don't agree with the unmarried sex one
homosexuality: not anything like the other examples
(Also: If someone is homosexual, didn't God make them that way?)
considering that lust is a cardinal sin, doesn't that mean sex is in itself an immoral practice?
Additionally, homoromanticism isn't the same as homosexuality. I.E., you can say that you are uncomfortable writing any semblance of sexual situations / physical attraction / cheating / premarital sex BUT it has NOTHING to do with whether said relationship is homosexual or heterosexual.
So if you wouldn't write hetero characters going on dates but not doing anything sexual / nothing physical is remotely implied beyond what's acceptable between friends, then THAT'S the only reason why not including homosexual couples in stories would be okay. Because then it would be a matter of not including sex, not LEAVING OUT HOMOSEXUALS, which is the same as leaving out women or people of color. If you would call the latter two discriminatory, then isn't the former so as well?
What it comes down to is that if you're saying "I won't include homosexuals in my works because the bible says homosexuality is sexually immoral", you're really saying "I won't include gays because according to what I worship, GAYS ARE BAD".
I'm not trying to say you're homophobic....... just trying to say that you sound like you're trying to say you're lowkey homophobic.
Sin--> sexually immoral--> GAYS
Sin--> GAYS
immoral--> GAYS
GAYS ----> BAD
is what you're saying your religion says.
your religion---> you follow it
you follow it---> you believe it
your religion says BEING GAY IS SEXUALLY IMMORAL SIN---> you agree
you agree---> you think that being gay is sin
sin---> bad
gay---> bad ---------> you think gay is bad
I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but this is what I see.
Originally Posted by SilverMoon View Post
It honors God to not include a section of His creation?
woah woah wait a minute, ok, a few things here:
- Cardinal sins are not specified in the bible, which would be the only real religious text of Christianity. The seven cardinal/original sins (Lust, Greed, Gluttony, Sloth, Wrath, Pride, Envy) were made up by this guy, Dante, who had a /personal/ belief that those were the seven worst sins and wrote them into Dante's Inferno. However, yes, there are some theories/explanations that while sex is not something that one would get punished for (within the parameters set), humans were not originally meant to even understand what lust was and therefore could not experience it. Plus animals procreate all the time without there being lust between the two. Lust and sex are separate. So while Lust is sinful, sex is technically not.
- I have a couple of personal theories on the matter of God's Design, but they might be taken as offensive, so suffice to say that I believe that everyone is given their own challenges in life and because of our free will it is up to us how we perceive and approach these challenges.
- I just realized that i've never written any characters going on dates...

I don't think gays are bad any more than I think kleptomaniacs are bad. At least, not in the sense that you're insinuating. No, it does not honor God to exclude part of his creation, that is not what I mean to say. My beliefs instruct me to show love and forgiveness to all of God's creations, however they also warn against encouraging or submitting to sinfulness.
I can include characters with other sins, (Claira, for example, is kleptomanic: stealing is a sin) because I can show them developing to overcome this sin (often posed as a character flaw), however I cannot take this approach with homosexuality because that is not the way that homosexuality works, it's not something that is viewed as a 'flaw' or as possessing the ability to be 'overcome'.
Plus, an example: my best friend engaged/engages in premarital sex, premarital sex is sexually immoral and therefore a sin. I don't love her any less because she's committed this sin, however, just because i'm willing to accept it doesn't mean i'm going to encourage her to do it, or insert it into my work.

To summarize:
Lust does not equal sex, therefore sex does not, in and of itself, equal sin.

Gays are not bad, I do not fear nor hate them, highkey, lowkey, or otherwise.

Loving and accepting does not translate to purposefully adding anything to my work.

I'll have to do some more studying into homoromanticism, because actually I don't know what there is to be said about that.
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