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Old 12-22-2016, 01:31 AM
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Old 12-22-2016, 01:12 PM
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hey guys..so uhh i've said before on kp that i'm an atheist, but recently i've been thinking a lot more about religion so uh.. bear with me

so like... i don't know if there's a god? like. i'm a very scientific, skeptical kind of person so i'm not a very spiritual person at all. and like, i definitely believe in evolution and stuff like that. but i also kind of feel like, if i could get my head around believing in something, i could?

like i believe in a lot of the moral stuff religion talks about? like the stuff about being a good person and all that. and i think, if i were to be even slightly religious, it would be like? something for myself, like a personal thing you know idk if this makes sense but

also, i'm gay and i don't want to be told that who i am is wrong or disgusting or morally awful or anything. obviously not all religious people think that and not all religions are homophobic but... yeah there's that

idk like there's the doubtful part of me that's like, there's nothing out there?? and there's a small part of me that's like, i'd want to believe in something, even if it's just for myself. so ummmm does anyone have any like.. advice? and if u don't mind answering this.... why do you believe in whatever you believe in?
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Old 12-22-2016, 05:24 PM
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hey guys..so uhh i've said before on kp that i'm an atheist, but recently i've been thinking a lot more about religion so uh.. bear with me

so like... i don't know if there's a god? like. i'm a very scientific, skeptical kind of person so i'm not a very spiritual person at all. and like, i definitely believe in evolution and stuff like that. but i also kind of feel like, if i could get my head around believing in something, i could?

like i believe in a lot of the moral stuff religion talks about? like the stuff about being a good person and all that. and i think, if i were to be even slightly religious, it would be like? something for myself, like a personal thing you know idk if this makes sense but

also, i'm gay and i don't want to be told that who i am is wrong or disgusting or morally awful or anything. obviously not all religious people think that and not all religions are homophobic but... yeah there's that

idk like there's the doubtful part of me that's like, there's nothing out there?? and there's a small part of me that's like, i'd want to believe in something, even if it's just for myself. so ummmm does anyone have any like.. advice? and if u don't mind answering this.... why do you believe in whatever you believe in?
hello buddy

my first urging to you is to find the truth. even if you can't prove it entirely to yourself or to anyone else, I don't want to live a lie out of ignorance.

about science disproving God- the theory of evolution, while I think it's quite possible, has several gaping holes in it that are worth attention.

I have believed in a God for as long as I can remember. at first it was just 'cause my parents did and I couldn't think why they were wrong. I believe for lots of reasons, some more petty than others, but I need God.

I've noticed so much confusion on this site. It is human to be confused, but so many of us are just content to stay there and not to try to win our way out of it. I'm confused a lot, but because I believe in these things, I'm so much less confused than most other people I meet.

There are people I know and admire who believe in God- happy people, strong people, people who I trust to teach me. I know a man who believes in God who is the principal of my school, and is quite possibly the wisest men I know. Atheists can also be wonderful people, but from what I've observed- which admittedly isn't a lot- if we let God help us, we can more easily become the best people we can be.


Here is a wonderful little proof of the existence of God.

Can we agree that nothing greater than God can be thought of?

Can we also agree that what exists is greater than what does not exist?

God must needs exist, therefore, because if he did not, all that existed would be greater than him.


I hope I was helpful.
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Old 12-22-2016, 06:38 PM
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hey guys..so uhh i've said before on kp that i'm an atheist, but recently i've been thinking a lot more about religion so uh.. bear with me

so like... i don't know if there's a god? like. i'm a very scientific, skeptical kind of person so i'm not a very spiritual person at all. and like, i definitely believe in evolution and stuff like that. but i also kind of feel like, if i could get my head around believing in something, i could?

like i believe in a lot of the moral stuff religion talks about? like the stuff about being a good person and all that. and i think, if i were to be even slightly religious, it would be like? something for myself, like a personal thing you know idk if this makes sense but

also, i'm gay and i don't want to be told that who i am is wrong or disgusting or morally awful or anything. obviously not all religious people think that and not all religions are homophobic but... yeah there's that

idk like there's the doubtful part of me that's like, there's nothing out there?? and there's a small part of me that's like, i'd want to believe in something, even if it's just for myself. so ummmm does anyone have any like.. advice? and if u don't mind answering this.... why do you believe in whatever you believe in?
Hey I feel a lot like this sometimes but less so recently. I don't really believe in a god or gods, but I believe it might be possible there is someone/something out there and I'm not sure really. I'm really glad I go to a super open and accepting church, even though I haven't been (school) for almost a year. If you want to go to church/temple/ anywhere else I would suggest just going to some places and making it clear you're unsure about your religion and questioning whether there is a god or not. The people there will probably be able to talk better than I can (especially since I'm unsure myself) and also ask questions about their stance on lgbtq issues! They will almost certainly not be angry at you. They might try and tell you it's wrong but they know you're questioning and if they are against it don't come back. But also with the whole moral thing-- that's basically just Unitarian Universalism. Not trying to force religion into you or anyone, but I really love my church and it's barely religious at all. You can be UU and super religious though, and everyone there will try and make sure you're happy with your religion and no one will be angry if you leave the church at all. It's super low key and for a lot of people is a sort of stepping stone religion into being more religious, but most people just stay UU. Good luck figuring things out
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Old 12-23-2016, 12:28 AM
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me: yeah 2017's gonna be my year! self-improvement! no braces! summer job! new concert opportunities! new music! yeah! new books! one year closer to lots of things! yeah!

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Old 12-23-2016, 11:55 PM
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Old 12-24-2016, 12:05 AM
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Why does every fucking thing have to be about my mother. When my very Catholic grandfather said Grace at the Christmas dinner we had tonight (it's straight out of the bible too) he decided to add something about my mother and how he hoped she was in heaven and whatever the bell else. Then my aunt got me a picture of our family with my mom in it. My grandmother got me a blanket that my great grandmother made for my mom. I just don't fucking understand it. My grandfather also brings "Susan" up every other sentence. Gods, I know they're trying their best, and I know they miss her too. Their own daughter committed suicide, for heaven's sake.

I'm just so fed up with it

Gods I wanted to cut so much

We have ONE shot at existing. We have ONE chance to make it count.

I'm going to have to do that without my mom.

I know it might sound stupid, but even after 3/4 or a year, it still hasn't really sunk in yet. That my mother had died. It comes in flashes, and when it does it's unbearable. But it goes away and I pretend she's on vacation or something. Anything. Because she can't really be gone.
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Old 12-24-2016, 02:36 AM
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My room has never felt more like a prisoner's cell then it does right now at 1:36 in the morning
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Old 12-24-2016, 02:20 PM
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heeyyy guys so i stumbled upon this website and i thought it might be helpful for anyone really struggling, especially suicidal thoughts. if calling/talking to someone face to face is too hard, this could really help! this website has an online chat with trained volunteers who can help.

https://www.imalive.org/
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Old 12-24-2016, 03:03 PM
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heeyyy guys so i stumbled upon this website and i thought it might be helpful for anyone really struggling, especially suicidal thoughts. if calling/talking to someone face to face is too hard, this could really help! this website has an online chat with trained volunteers who can help.

https://www.imalive.org/
1: thanks for this
2: omg hi confuzzled i haven't seen u around in a while
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